tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post2966412700515419192..comments2024-03-16T18:17:07.224-07:00Comments on Nate Jenkins Training: Training December 22 to 28, 2014. Picking up Steamnateruns@hotmail.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01851427962048556845noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post-32506809827567044872014-12-30T08:53:46.962-08:002014-12-30T08:53:46.962-08:00Running Doc- I'm using the curve because it fo...Running Doc- I'm using the curve because it forces me to keep good form. In my case shoulders back. If I run on it in what still feels like my 'natural' form I will fall flat on my face. So for me specifically I am using the curve as one of my main tools for fixing my shoulder position and through that my coordination. It gives me the most instant feedback on my form, even better than running with the harness. <br /> Now generally speaking there are a few things I love about the curve that put it above a regular treadmill for me even if you discount my specific shoulder issue. First you can do strides on it. This is all but impossible on a regular treadmill but the curves changes speeds with you and goes as fast as you go so it is super easy to do. Second you can do fartleks again all but impossible to do a good fartlek on a regular treadmill on the curve it is perfect. Finally it is actually harder aerobically to run on the curve than on flat ground. The opposite of a regular treadmill. I have found that I can maintain a very high heart rate and aerobic effort on the curve but not get beat up in the legs. It is almost like getting an extra tempo run in for free during the week. <br /> In the interest of fair and balanced advertising the curve has some drawbacks. The biggest is cost. The stupid thing costs about $7k once you factor in delivery. So at least for the time being I am going to a gym that has some of them. Second the strength of most treadmills is the tempo run. This is not the case with the curve. It isn't very easy to hold a steady pace on the curve and figuring out what pace to go is very hard. There is very little research out there about pace equivalency for the curve. All I have found is stuff that says basically, yup it is much harder to run the same pace on the curve as compared to a regular treadmill or flat outdoor running. I have not done enough hard running on the curve yet to start and create my own pace guidelines.nateruns@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851427962048556845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post-77406218806780179772014-12-30T05:57:30.901-08:002014-12-30T05:57:30.901-08:00Nate - I have noticed you have been doing some wor...Nate - I have noticed you have been doing some workouts on the Curve treadmill. Why on the curve versus a regular treadmill? <br /><br />Running DocRunning Docnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post-30107288337700122222014-12-29T07:34:20.642-08:002014-12-29T07:34:20.642-08:00James- the advantages of doing the double. Specifi...James- the advantages of doing the double. Specifically for me I don't think I could hold form and through that coordination for 40k at this point so this helps build the specific strength to do that. <br /> For everyone similarly this builds the ability to do a better long hard run down the road. Right now I couldn't run 25 miles at 5:48 per mile over these hills. So I could go out and try to do it as fast as I can and hope to get faster each time but you will find that often the improvements don't come as you want them to when you approach it this way. Instead you get much greater gains by running under distance at the speed you want and then trying to increase distance with each return to the workout or by doing something like this where you break the session into two and build the strength endurance to do it as one. This session builds towards a number of other sessions all of which are steps towards racing a strong marathon. With this session I build directly towards two other sessions the first is 35 to 40k at the same pace as a single run. The second is the same workout again but run at 90 to 95% marathon pace- more in the 3:20's per k. That session builds to two specific marathon workouts directly. first 35 to 40k at 90 to 95% marathon pace and the second is a specific block, something like 10k in 34, 10k at marathon pace where you then repeat that same session in the afternoon. Those two workouts build directly to racing a good marathon.<br /> RunningDoc, thanks!nateruns@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01851427962048556845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post-16807737378731945282014-12-29T07:25:34.388-08:002014-12-29T07:25:34.388-08:00Nate,
Great to see that you are over your illness ...Nate,<br />Great to see that you are over your illness and that you are holding the coordination. Looking forward to following the new blog - the old blog was very informative. Hope that things continue to improve and look forward to following your spring and summer.<br />RunningDocRunningDocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2274438111706927359.post-54660255245825536382014-12-29T07:00:28.821-08:002014-12-29T07:00:28.821-08:00That is a pretty legit Sunday double session. 2 ru...That is a pretty legit Sunday double session. 2 runs of 14+ is a rough day. I've never attempted something like that.<br /><br />What's the advantage of doing that over say doing a harder effort 18-20 miler?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210223517207761421noreply@blogger.com